Isn't this what contradictory

to the Zombie laws of it's only entertainment? Wouldn't Cindy call this taking stuff offline?

What a psycho. I do believe someone should let the Delaware health system know of this woman since she indeeds to do patient care.

"Who Knew that the Zombies Pay Dues?"

(Written 12/30/10 by ChristopherK2 for the Uglier Marylanders Blog)

My sources deep within the Zeeke Cult recently provided me with the poop on what the Zombies have to pay for being in the Zeeke Cult.

It doesn't seem like much at first glance, but the aggregate totals are impressive. Their dues come in several parts.

1. $1.00 an hour for being active in the room, up to a maximum of $7 per day.
2. A flat $50 per month. (There are ongoing discussions about $200 per month "Gold Key Memberships.")
3. A $1.00 surcharge on each drink at designated "piss drunk" events.
4. An offset of $1 for each disparaging comment posted on this blog about me, Bob, Bonnie, or RedSky (5 word minimum; maximum of 5 comments per day).

The fascinating part is where those monies go:

1. The $1.00 per hour while active in the room goes entirely to Zeeke. While that may not sound like much, if all the Zombies are fully active every day, it would work out to $20,440/year. It also explains why he doesn't have time for a real job. But unfortunately, the total pay for him for 2010 was just $12,500.

2. The flat $50/month is for "Miscellaneous Expenses," which so far has been used solely to pay off Zeeke's legal bills. (You didn't buy his hooey about the NRA footing the bill, did you?)

3. The drink surcharge is split evenly between Zeeke and Ham so they can get "piss drunk" for free.

The offset for nasty comments on this blog has become a growing problem because of the recent enormous increase in them. Some Zombies have figured out that if they just type a few moronic words every now and then while Zeeke's on another mind-numbing rant they can substantially reduce their bills.

The discussions at Cult meetings about fees and expenses have become heated at times. At one, for example, the hostilities started when Zeeke said he wanted to upgrade from 7-11 Game Day beer to Olde Frothingslosh ("the pale stale ale"). Ugly allegations about "living in the lap of luxury" were hurled about. Zeeke's usual "But *I* am The Man!" mantra was met by Ham's "BlahBlahBlah," which caused Zeeke to throw a hissy fit and storm out in a huff.

So, basically, Zeeke's AOL Job pays $12,500 per year plus FREE BEER and no legal costs. Not bad pay for cussing all day long at Bonnie and Guy! But it also means that Zeeke may have to get a REAL job to maintain his rather minimal lifestyle unless the Zombies up the ante. Til then, he'll have to continue to wear those mortifying green muscle shirts to nightclubs.

A picture speaks a thousand words

How can someone that looks like this be happy at all?

"Confession is Good for the Soul; Lying Isn't"

(Written 12/27/10 by ChristopherK2 for the Uglier Marylanders blog)

In addition to whatever moral problems lying causes, its practical effects are obvious. No one believes you later when it's important to you that they do.

For example, last night in the room Cindy admitted to lying about the whole Bob and Facebook thing. When I called her on it, she tried to weasel out of it but really just affirmed it. There was no "whoops, I didn't mean THAT" or other feeble attempt at denial, just the reflexive "don't speak to me" mantra.

If Cindy wants to see where lying leads, just look at Zeeke. He lies frequently, badly, and without remorse. So, of course, no one now believes anything he says about anyone.

And no one's fooled by "I swear on my life (THIS time)" oaths. We all read Aesop's "The Boy Who Cried Wolf" fable when we were children.

Cindy32863: OK> I have to admit something
Cindy32863: some already knew this
Cindy32863: umm I was NEVER one bob's FB...not did ANYONE I know go on his FB>>I just wanted to watch him make a fool of himself LOL
TheZeekEffect: lololol..
Cindy32863: and he did it SOO well = )
TheZeekEffect: it worked
Cindy32863: and that I swear on my life = )
RUFFSTUFFROB69: cindy your the laughing stock
Cindy32863: lmao NO BOB. that would be you dear

Cindy32863: you were played..and played oohhh soo well
Cindy32863: lmao
ChristopherK2: Cindy--So, essentially, you lied?
RUFFSTUFFROB69: yes she lied and that's ok chris
Cindy32863: or am I lying now?
Cindy32863: the world shall never know = )
ChristopherK2: We just know that you lied, then or now?
Cindy32863: K2..seriously. go play on the little blog and dont speak to me

"Sometimes they open their mouths simply to change their feet."

(Written 12/26/10 by ChristopherK2 for the Uglier Marylanders blog)

I had the following exchange early this morning in the room with Alan and his bride, Perky. I'll give them credit for being rather quick at changing their stories. And Alan wisely shut up and let Perky try to defend him.

Xalan39o3x: k2 farts cum
ChristopherK2: Oh, so Alan's the Zombie who posts on the blog. I wondered...
Xalan39o3x: i never blog
Xalan39o3x: must be another fan
Perkyonex2: (((((((((((((((((((((((( Honey FONT))))))))))))))))))))))) stop blogging
Perkyonex2: but I love you anyway
ChristopherK2: "I never read the blog. I just comment on it, critique it, etc."
ChristopherK2: (Did Perky just rat out her hubby?)
Perkyonex2: No..I just went with the flow of conversation....and if YOU say he's blogging ..he MUST be bloggin
ChristopherK2: Surrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrre...
ChristopherK2: Nice backpedal...
Perkyonex2: I don't backpedal
Perkyonex2: I just go with the flow
ChristopherK2: Right...

Helping those who seem hopeless to help

Written 12/22/10 by RedSkyBay for the Uglier Marylanders Blog)


I was in the chat room one evening and gave Cindy some good, sound advice. It seems Cindy is going to give her toddler grandson a puppy for Christmas. A puppy as a plaything, can you imagine? A puppy is a living, breathing creature, with feelings. Most anyone that has an ounce of sense knows the worse time to give a puppy as a gift is at Christmas. Call any shelter, they will tell you that their shelters fill up not long after Christmas, because the novelty of the puppy wears off. The puppy has accidents on the floor, needs attention, and then there are Vet bills.

And a puppy for a toddler? A toddler has no sense of responsibility. A person with any intelligence would wait until that child was old enough to learn responsibility. Then, if he or she showed that responsibility in his parents eyes, let him have a puppy, he earned it. Puppies get seriously injured every year by small children that don't understand that they are not toys.

As if that wasn't bad enough, there was another roomie that saw the pictures of the puppies, (we will just call her Poison Hemlock) and said she wanted a certain one by just looking at a picture. So much for meeting the puppy, seeing if they connected, and checking it's personality. Or seeing if that particular breed of dog fits into the Family's lifestyle. I will never understand the lack of intelligence some people show. It just sickens me to read stories of why so many dogs are in shelters, and the lack of consideration from the people that put them there.

Anyway, back to my story. Cindy was so angry and humiliated when I made a comment about the puppies, she went off on me. Calling me this name, that name, anything she could think of in her moment of rage. A few minutes later, Ruffstuff asked me if I saw the pictures of his dogs. When I replied I had, Cindy's sick brain went into motion. Cindy thought to herself...hmm..I bet RedSky saw Rob's pictures on his face book page. That had to be it!

So, Cindy desperate to get even an ounce of dirt on me after she was humiliated in the room, made up a fake Face book account, hoping I was one of Rob's friends. She made the persons occupation as that of a Trucker. (I'm trying not to laugh here, but it's hard.) Cindy, and her squirrel of a friend under Cindy's instructions, then invited Ruffstuff to be their friend under the brand new alias name, to get access to Rob's friends and their information. Cindy had it all figured out in her demented mind.
You were WRONG again Cindy. Imagine that!

As a friend of mine often says after visiting the room, "THOSE PEOPLE NEED THERAPY!"

Merry Christmas Cindy.

DOINKKKKKKKKKKKK!



The names used in this story are fictional, even though it would be hard to convince anyone with intelligence that they aren't.

"An Intervention for Zeeke"

(Written 12/15/10 by ChristopherK2 for the Uglier Marylanders Blog)

Zeeke's family and his one friend staged an intervention after Thanksgiving dinner because of their concerns for... well, themselves. This intrepid reporter was given a recording of the event by an anonymous source ["Bean Spiller" Beth].

Zeeke's Mom: Billy, there are a few things we've gathered together here to discuss with you. We love you, but we're deeply concerned with some parts of your life.
Zeeke's Brother: Why the fuck did some AOL woman mail ME a package with a frickin' liver inside of it??? WTF is WRONG WITH YOU!!!
Z's Mom: Now, now, we agreed to remain calm.
Z's Mom: Billy, one of our concerns is that people from AOL are coming after US because of their hatred for YOU. Who is this Bonnie person?
Zeeke: She's just another "AOL Victim" who can't take a joke. She's seriously nuts.
Z's Brother: Joke??? You've been verbally abusing her for almost 10 years, according to Christopher, and...
Zeeke: Christopher? You know ChristopherK2???
Z's Mom: Yes, we had lunch last week. He seems like a very nice man, very smart, and quite the gentleman. Nice teeth, too.
Zeeke: That ##$%& is a @#$&* faggy jooboy.
Z's Uncle Abraham: I beg your pardon!
Zeeke: Oh, sorry Uncle Abe, I forgot you were here.
Z's Mom: Where'd you learn THAT language!!! And who is that man who called me looking for you?
Zeeke: He's just another AOL Loser with a criminal record of nine felonies, mostly for beating up people and firearms violations. He's spent several years in prison and...
[Note: Zeeke's Mom faints. As Beth is helping to revive her, the discussion continues.]
Z's Brother: Now LOOK what YOU have done to Mom! We both know that I can beat your ASS, and trust me, I will unless...
Z's Mom: Stop it, boys. I'll be okay in a few minutes. Billy, we've been watching you on the widget for a few weeks and...
Zeeke: The widget?!?!?!
Z's Mom: Yes, that nice Christopher gave us the... what's it called... the link. It seems that every thing he has said about you is true.
Zeeke: If I ever see that @#@$#$%, I'm gonna...
Z's BFF Beth: Oh, stop that, Billy. Everyone knows that you're harmless and just full of hot air.
Z's Brother: I was amazed at how much time you spend talking in that chat room, at least five hours a day. What happened with your job?
Zeeke: Due to the tough economy, I was cut back to part-time about 18 months ago. I only work from 9 p.m. to midnight three nights a week.
Z's Mom: So, you didn't really need all that money I've given you because you knocked up a couple of girls?
Z's Brother: Mom!!! Watch your language!
Z's Mom: Oh, sorry, one too many eggnogs...
Z's Brother: And why haven't you gotten another job? I bet you could've found a good one IF you didn't spend so much time on AOL!
Zeeke: Bite me, "not so big" brother!

[Note: A brief fight ensues, Carlton pounds Billy to a bloody pulp, and Billy's tied to a chair and gagged.]

Zeeke's BFF Beth: Listen to me carefully, BillyBOY. You're killing my rep in the room. If you don't straighten up and soon, you ain't touching THIS ever again. I can always go back to Prancer, ya'know. And HE can dance, instead of whatever it is you do that looks like a headless frickin' chicken on uppers!

Z's Brother: And IF I or anyone else in the family gets another body part in the jail or another phone call from an AOLer, trust me, YOU will be VERY sorry "little" brother.

Z's Mom: Billy, really, we all love you and want what's best for you in life. But you're putting all of us in danger with your stupid AOL crap. You NEED to quit all that ugliness on AOL. Try being NICE instead, like Christopher. AND you NEED to get a REAL job. IF you don't do those by the end of the year, I *will* cut off your money.

[Zeeke's family and Beth then turn and leave in a huff. But they forgot one thing...]

Zeeke: mmmmmmmmmffffffff...

Note: This article is purely fictional, and any resemblance between names used herein and real people is purely intentional... errr... coincidental.

Help Please

I need to know more about this company.

http://www.lewcoinc.com/

Is she really this stupid?

"Taking the Paranormal Out for a Spin"

(Written 12/3/10 by ChristopherK2 for the Uglier Marylanders Blog)

My gene pool includes a few steps into the paranormal, mostly telepathy and such. My particular talent is suggestive thought-casting. I won't bore you with the "how" details, but basically I mentally send suggestions to do something to people, and surprisingly often they comply.

So, I decided to trot out my skills and test them on some of Zeeke's Zombies. Starting a few weeks ago, I occasionally suggested to some of them that they use some of MY thoughts about Zeeke in their constant attacks on Bonnie, Guy and others. I Zombiefied the Zombies.

The best results follow. The effect was strongest on Ham, probably because of lingering ties created during our prior friendship. Or maybe because of her obviously weakening relationship with Zeeke due to the whole dust-up over Pretty's party.

HamOnWryX2: this level of illiteracy and stupidity is painful to see [11/14, 1:13 p.m.]

PullmyPonieTail: and why is it, that it can be nice and calm in here, and when one ass makes a rude comment, no one can ignore it, they have to jump on it and start an argument. [11/6, 10:45 a.m.]

HamOnWryX2: some people just always have to be right, regardless of how foolish it is or the consequences [11/30]

NotWith0utAFight: The campers are killing this place. You can't get back in. [11/26, 3:50 p.m.]

HamOnWryX2: guy projects all his insecurities and fears and hate and shortcomings into others, then insults them... so he is actually insulting himself... he attacks in others what he hates and fears in himself... he's mostly a small minded, limited loser who wants to feel important [11/30, 12:27 p.m.]

Xalan39o3x (Perky): ok....a chatroom is not the place to try and shut people up
Xalan39o3x: this room is for CHATTING [12/2, 5:05 a.m.]

HamOnWryX2: blahblahblahmyobsessionblahblahkickadeadhorseblahblahblahnothingevernew [12/2/10]

Cry me some drama

Ugly is (drum roll please)

Hadn't visited chat in months. Quickly learned things I never knew from our moronic friend Cindy (who should never hold a position greater than a floor mopper.)

Well it is hunting season

but most hunt for animals, not Pam's.

Been smoking

The Zombies sure are full of class!

Drama Queen Cindy

Mike's in the chatroom making love and peace and Cindy has to start drama. And wasn't she posting some kids obituary not long ago?

And why is she saying the same thing about bring her grandson around Pretty? Who not only is a multiple convicted convict, but has lost custody of her kid.

What's your bet

how soon he returns to his shit?

Moron Alert

Ronnie gets truthful

Overseas

yet again. Expect slow service here.

TEAM toofless

Has team dropout looked at their teeth? Pictures soon

Is Bonnie on to something?

Hope hubby has a good attorney

Wife sounds like a **ore.

Donations wanted

Let's all donate some money for Cindy to have gastric. She is so jealous of those who could afford it.

Glass Windows

He has more play time than anyone else in Maryland.

An oldie but a goodie

Fathers R'us

Is it time for Cindy to be put away?

Since so many of you expressed concerns over her recent behavior, I'd like to add my two cents.

YES

"How to Waste, or Invest, 10,000 Hours"

(Written 10/14/10 by ChristopherK2 for the Uglier Marylanders Blog)

Any way you look at it, 10,000 hours is a LOT of time. 417 full days. If you work 40 hours a week, it's almost 5 years of work. If you sleep 8 hours a day, it's almost 21 months of "awake time." We each decide, day in and day out, year in and year out, how to spend each precious hour we are granted on this Earth.

Let's take a closer look at how some people have spent their 10,000 hours...

Example #1: Bonnie and Zeeke, for example, have been arguing with each other for somewhere between 8 and 10 years. At just 3 hours a day of arguing (a conservative estimate), they are either already past--or rapidly closing in on--the 10,000 hour mark. Amazing...

Example #2: Zeeke belittles, etc., many more people than just Bonnie. If he does it for an average of just 5 hours a day (again, a conservative estimate), he trips the 10,000 hour mark every 5-6 years. Which means that he's already on his SECOND round. Congrats!

Are there... ummm... better ways to utilize 10,000 hours? I'm glad you asked!

Example #3: It just so happens (pure coincidence, I swear!) that 10,000 hours is about how long it took me earn my bachelor's degree (over 5 years), my law degree (4+ years), prepare for the bar exam (600 hours), and earn my four professional designations (CFP, CLU, ChFC, and FLMI), for a total of about 320 credit hours. That doesn't include the endless hours I've spent learning about gardening, photography, ballroom dancing, etc.

Example #4: Insert your own ideas and experiences!

Christopher

Is this Baltmo style parenting or AOL style?

Disability bias

Wonder why Cindy and others aren't attacking Pretty for trying to live off the dole? They sure do attack another person for living on disability.

How can Cindy and others attack a woman for having a child with no father around but turn a blind eye on the piece of trash who won't even look for her runaway daughter who is living with a prostitute?

Cheating and the internet

Would you stay with a guy who did this?

"Straw Men and Bigotry"

(Written 10/6/10 by ChristopherK2 for the Uglier Marylanders Blog)

Straw Men have been a popular tactic for many years, especially in law and politics. It's a simple approach: Misstate something that your opponent said--or just make up stuff--then attack that phoney statement.

Zeeke and the Zombies use a variant of it against ME. Because they are profound bigots, they lie and say that I am something that they can then attack with their ugly bigotry. So... ta da... I'm both Gay and Jewish.

Being as I'm neither, I don't care other than being generally offended. I suppose Zeeke and his Zombies are impressed with each other's puerile insults. But I suspect that our many normal, mature adults simply wonder why they're so homophobic and anti-Semitic.

Alas for them, there's no other plan. I'm a nice, romantic, intelligent, educated, mature adult who's engaged to a gorgeous, much younger woman. And they're pond scum. So, they'd be reduced to either calling me generic crap ("He's a butt head."), or saying crap that's easily pointed back at them (Them: "He's unpopular." Me: "Thank Jesus I'm not popular with the Zeeke Cult."), or calling me OLD, which is a two-edged sword (Me: "We have better insurance.").

Being pond scum is such a tough position from which to *try* to insult others...

Christopher

I thought Cindy and Pretty were friends?

Why would she be mocking Pretty for having to call the police on her runaway daughter?

Ham attacking for no reason

Seems Ham doesn't need Billybob to attack. How bad is her life really?

"I'm Jewish??? You'd Think *I* Would Know That!"

(Written 9/26/10 by ChristopherK2 for the Uglier Marylanders Blog)

On Thursday afternoon, Beth and N-Word Vomit had the following chat in the room:

HamOnWryX2: [Bonnie] said something yesterday about thank goodness k2 isnt jewish 02:36

YOUMAKEMEVOMlT4: isnt he jewish? 02:36

HamOnWryX2: cracke dme right up 02:36

HamOnWryX2: cracked 02:36

HamOnWryX2: uh huh 02:36

YOUMAKEMEVOMlT4: lol 02:36

YOUMAKEMEVOMlT4: that is funny 02:36

HamOnWryX2: zeeke said his thing about a gay jew and bonnie said well it was a good thing k2 wasn't jewish 02:37

...

HamOnWryX2: that was funny on a couple different levels

I'm glad that Beth let ME know that I'm Jewish! But, no, I'm not Jewish, either by religion or ancestry. ("Not that there's anything wrong with that.")

I'm sure Beth wasn't just making up a rumor , so I'll just say that, well, her memory sucks. I've periodically discussed this in the chat room over the last 7 years.

Normally I don't care about such things, even when Zeeke goes on one of his many anti-Semitic rants about me. But given that many think Beth has much more credibility than Zeeke, I thought I'd take a few moments to tell everyone the truth.

The reason I used to (keyword *used to*) wonder about my ancestry is that I've had Crohn's disease since my early 20's. It's a nasty auto-immune disorder for which having an ancestry of Ashkenazi Jews (so-called "German Jews") is *one* risk factor (despite Zeeke's obvious lies to the contrary). Given that I'm 15/16th's German, it was a natural concern. So, when I began researching my gene pool about 7 years ago, I asked Mom. Mom knew my ancestry a LOT better than I did, and said that there was no Jewish ancestry of any kind on either side of our family. I accepted her explanation, and haven't looked into it since.

It simply doesn't matter to me either way. But it's a popular topic among Zeeke and his ilk, who love to lie and rumor monger. So, you can either believe Mom/me, or them.

This will hopefully eliminate one thread of anti-Semitic rants and related ugly chat in this room.

BTW, isn't it simply splendid that Beth wrote off Zeeke's homophobic and anti-Semitic rant as merely "his thing"? How nice...

Christopher

Cindy's nose grows even bigger

What happened to I'd never bring someone's kids into something? And wasn't she claiming to live in an apartment in Frederick last month?

"I'm Not Buying What They're Selling"

(Written 9/21/10 by ChristopherK2 for the Uglier Marylanders Blog)

The Zombies believe that Zeeke's behavior in the chat room is all just "for effect" or "shock value;" that he doesn't really "believe" what he says. In the SSR, he called it his "mind fuck game." They apparently feel that in person he's just another really nice guy.

We've seen this before several times. Mensa's buddies, for example, said the same things.

Even if true, what kind of person has two such distinct personalities? (Well, not counting those in institutions or under treatment for various mental illnesses.) Any of us could choose to behave entirely differently in the chat room than in real life. But "normal, mature adults" don't do that. Sure, many of us are somewhat more this, or less that, while online. But "nice guy" offline and "obnoxious, bigoted butthead" online? I'm not buying it.

I believe that the better explanation is that Zeeke is usually exactly the same way he is in the chat room, while also being semi-normal in person. The rest is accounted for by the rationalization of his Zombies. I have several reasons for believing that.

First, the Zombies have all adopted Zeeke's ugly persona in the chat room to some extent. Brunette and Ham, for example, are their nice, normal selves most of the time, but will occasionally and suddenly erupt in spasms of ugliness. Do they honestly think they can briefly slip into and out of other personas? No, they think it's okay to be ugly for a bit because Zeeke has paved the way for them. It's really just them letting loose thoughts that all normal adults repress.

Second, when the Zombies rationalize Zeeke's behavior in the room, they talk about how it's "just words on a screen," blah, blah, blah. But they also conveniently forget about his "actions." Is regularly banning "50+" nice, normal roomies excused as easily? How about investigating the personal lives of other roomies and posting the results in the room (as Zeeke has done about me)? How about stealing a copyrighted picture and bashing someone's fiancee on his blog (again, as Zeeke has done to me and Pamela)? And even within the "just words" category, how about posting a roomie's *real* full name, address, and phone number (as Zeeke has done of mine many times)? Phoney magazine subscriptions? Spoofed phone calls?

Third--and for me, the best explanation--the proof is in Zeeke's supporting cast. Beth has gone from being a very nice lady to divulging confidential and very personal information, and ruthlessly attacking in the room everyone she doesn't like. Brunette alternates between assaulting people in the room and whining about how disgustingly ugly the room has become. Sweet often brags about how she faked being a young girl and stalked a guy to where he works. Sxymafia loves to tell the story about her days of dropping "piss bombs" on people's houses. And Vomit regularly dropped the N-Bomb in the Super Secret Room. And so on for the others.

The simple reality is that ALL of them are NOT nice people. When they are under their "nice, normal adults" guises, they will protest that any effort to paint them as sickos is based merely on their "words" which shouldn't count. But words DO count. We all know that. As do actions. And their own words AND actions reveal WHO they really are, as do Zeeke's. They are all pond scum.

The only remaining mystery to me is why the Zombies continue to try to deny their realities. Zeeke at least fully embraces his. They should just shout it out: "We are the Zombies, and we can say and DO anything we want, no matter how ugly and stupid, for shits and giggles." Namby-pamby boo frickin' hoo...

Or perhaps they still actually care somewhat what others think of them? Nah...

Christopher

Finally she admits she's a liar

"A Visit with One of the Three-Dimensional People"

(Written 9/12/10 by ChristopherK2 for the Uglier Marylanders blog)

Yesterday afternoon I stopped by to visit one of my favorite buddies, Tim. It was the end of a long work week for him and I was physically shot from a long week of landscaping and gardening. Tim is one of the many "nice, normal, mature adults" I think of when I bash Zeeke and the Zombies for not being that.

Tim started a small business about three years ago. He and his smart, pretty wife have worked at it very hard (she does the paperwork and computer stuff, in addition to her normal job as an accountant) and it has been a success. They also have a delightful family life filled with kids, siblings, cousins, aunts, uncles, and parents, and a wide circle of friends.

Tim and I are both yakkers, so we often just sit on his porch and yammer about whatever comes to mind, this time for almost two hours. A campaigning politician dropped by at the start for a few minutes, so we discussed that for a bit. Then it was on to recent black hole theory developments, George Will columns, the possibility of time travel (he doesn't believe it'll ever happen... surely a Vulcan in another life), Steven Hawking's recent opinions about God, the bravery of the newest Medal of Honor winner (first live one since the Vietnam War) and how that related to each of us, and a few other fascinating topics.

Zeeke and Tim are both about the same age and have about the same amount of *formal* education, which is about all they have in common. Tim continued to self-educate and is one of those sponges for information about topics that interest him. I know about topics such as the origins of the universe and black holes mostly by formal education, and also being a sponge.
So, how did Tim and Zeeke turn out so differently? Well, Tim started his business about the same time as Zeeke started his ascendancy in the chat room. At the end of the day, Tim now has a thriving business, in addition to a great wife and wonderful family, and continued fluency in a wide range of intellectual topics. And Zeeke has... well... hmmm... dominion over a small, ugly, dying AOL chat room and several Zombies.

A key reason for that difference is that I had to write down for Tim how to Google for articles about "before the Big Bang." Tim has spent ZERO time on the computer. He has had much more important things to do with his life. Zeeke obviously hasn't.
Christopher

Party time

Birth Control

Don't most women know by middle age how to prevent pregnancies and not to advertise they have a loose Lucy?

Oh, and more proof she totally lied about being pregnant a couple years ago.

Zeeke a KKK member?

'Shock Value' vs. 'Sincere Belief' OR ???

Beth and I, joined by a few others at times, had a fascinating chat the other night as a result of a dustup between Beth and Bonnie about a remark Bonnie had made. Bonnie's remark was mildly anti-Semitic, and it led to a good general conversation about interpreting chat room behavior.

Beth and I are both strongly opposed to and disgusted by the bigotry that is rampant in the chat room, especially recently. When I noted that Zeeke had made numerous bigoted remarks far worse than Bonnie's, Beth laid out an interesting rationale to explain why Zeeke's, in essence, don't much count to her.

She said that Zeeke "says it knowing that it will piss you off... not because he believes it" whereas Bonnie "actually believes" hers. She agreed when Brunette described Zeeke's as for "shock value." Beth concluded with, "But I am far more offended when someone says it because they believe it."

I asked Beth how she knew that Bonnie believed it, and she said she had asked Bonnie. And she seemed miffed that no one had asked Zeeke whether he "actually believes" anything he says.

Well, last things first: If you ask someone whose on-line persona includes lying frequently whether they're... well... lying, how much validity can you give to their answer? So, why bother asking...

But that aside, there are two general challenges.

The first is when two people in a chat room say crap (e.g., bigotry) and you don't personally know either of them. I tend to take people literally, so I'd label both of them as bigots and be done with them. I'm guessing that Beth agrees, although I'm probably more confrontational about it than Beth.

The more difficult challenge is when you know one of them personally very well, as Beth knows Zeeke. I know how I was raised. I saw Mom once scorch a friend of 50+ years for daring to use the N-Word in her presence. Mega Ouch! Considering that I've known Bonnie for many years and that was the first bigoted comment I've seen from her, I only mildly chastised her here for it.

But if I were Zeeke's friend... well, scratch that... we would've never gotten anywhere near that level *because* of the serious bigotry he displays so frequently in the chat room. Beth knows him well, and believes he's not a bigot *despite* what he says in the room. I think that's the same kind of rationalization that led people to befriend Mensa even though her first words ever in the room were, "Any Aryan men in here?" Shocking? Of course. Seriously bigoted? Yes! Her "actual belief"? Don't know... don't care.

Christopher

Zeeke's exwife?

I was sent this picture.

When we were teens

Most of us went to school, got good grades, and did the right thing. And then: